The Misborn series comes recommended by Eurogamer friend Johnny Chiodini, who describes Fortnite's latest addition thus: "Kelsier is a thief, but he's also a mistborn - a person who can consume. It is used to fuel Southern Scadrian Allomantic technology, including their airships, which run via Steelpushing. [22], Kelsier has an unknown Seon which he uses to commmunicate with his Ghostbloods on Scadrial. Even the church of the survivor would be virtually the same. I had a similar reaction to theend of Lev Grossmans The Magicians. The Set was not after the Bands of Mourning as originally believed, but rather the airship and bombs located within the temple. Then, in Shadows of Self, Paalm was using a spike supplied by Trell to gain Allomantic and Feruchemical abilities, as well as to remain invisible to Harmony. And if we ignore that as well, Kelsier's cognitive shadow doesn't seem to have any of his mistborn powers so an extra hemalurgic power would likely mean nothing at that point. [34] This spike pins his soul to his bones. As a Cognitive Shadow tied to Scadrial, it is difficult for him to travel to other planets via Shadesmar. Kelsier had traveled there several years after the Catacendre, inhabiting a physical body that was spiked in the right eye, and found the Southern Scadrians slowly dying of an unexplained coldness. [30] He is quite proficient at pewter dragging and has enough practice to maintain it for hours and still maintain a fair amount of clarity afterwards. His name and deeds passed into legend. He claims that he smiles solely because laughter is the only thing that the Lord Ruler cannot take from him. [43] He feels Ruin's presence during his time in the Well. Why would it have to be relevant to the current or future cosmere? , Marsh is Kelsiers older brother. When that happened, after everything he and Vin went through, I was in a state of sadness for days. He is a twinborn, utilizing the Allomantic/Feruchemical skills of Coinshot (pushing metal) and Skimmer (storing his own weight to make himself heavier/lighter). Its relevant to the past in the cosmere. He tries to teach Vin to smile and occasionally look on the bright side of things. Be. [38] Outside the city, they saw a Mistwraith. [53][54] He used this opportunity to tell Spook to send a message to Vin, warning her that any spiked person could potentially be under Ruin's control. [24][25][3][26] He is a great agent of chaos and is very good at tearing things down and messing with what other people want. Kelsier is one of the titular characters of the first Mistborn novel, leading a crew of ruffians and thieves on a mission to assassinate The Lord Ruler, and end his tyranny over the lands of Scadrial. This severely angered Kelsier and crushed morale within his crew, making them feel that they wouldn't be needed now that the army had been slaughtered. Kelsier then made his living as a thief, becoming famous throughout Luthadel. A natural leader, Kelsier used his charismatic personality to draw skilled and loyal Mistings to his own crew and eventually to lead a rebel army. Kelsier had traveled there several years after the Catacendre, inhabiting a physical body that was spiked in the right eye, and found the Southern Scadrians slowly dying of an unexplained coldness. If you enjoy queer protagonists, snarky humor, and dont mind some salty language, check out book 1. [7] Using Allomancy he was able to escape the Pits. Harmony(fka Sazed): Harmony holds the shards of Ruin AND Preservation, and as such is (one of the) god(s) of Scadrial. He overcomes this character flaw eventually (demonstrated by saving the noblemen Elend Venture from certain death) when Vin convinces him that there are good people among the nobility. Sure, maybe it would be active for a split second when touching blood or whatever like you said,but as soon as the head passes out of his body on the other side, it wouldnt affect him anymore. [32], Born to a noble father and skaa mother,[35] his mother kept both Kelsier and Marsh alive by pretending that she was noble to their father so that their children would be considered merely illegitimate noblemen instead of half-breeds; however, their father eventually found out. Worship. We left off in TheBands of Mourning with Steris and Wax eloping. Allik Neverfar: A Southern Scadrian (specifically from Malwish), Allik is an airship crewman who was captured by the Set. In no way was it suggested that TLR was the one gaining the Hemalurgic power. Honestly, you should have seen it coming. [69] Wax then used the artifact to defeat the Set and save the Southern Scadrian prisoners, using up a lot of the Investiture stored in the Bands. [citation needed], To put the plan in motion, Kelsier first targeted Keep Venture, as House Venture was the currently most powerful house in Luthadel and an attack on it would have the greatest impact. After Sazeds Ascension and Spooks rise to political power, Kelsier began to speak with Spook about finding a way to bring himself back to the Physical Realm. He spun around on the rooftop, then suddenly he was there. Why would it have to be relevant to the current or future cosmere? Mistborn Era 2 takes place 341 years after the events in the original trilogy, but theres another little story that we hope youve also read that takes place between themMistborn: Secret History. He and Steris are married. When he reaches their base, he moved past their guards and passed the wall into their chambers. Now we are two Books deep into the Second Era and maybe i need to re-read them with more cosmere awareness but i cant remember any hints of a Cognitiv/Cosmereaware Kelsier . TLR is like the sacrifices, while Kelsier is like the Inquisitor. [61][4][3] When assassinated by Szeth, Gavilar suspects Thaidakar of ordering his death. Ranette: Waxs gunsmith and a Lurcher (iron-pulling). Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc. On 8/3/2018 at 9:16 PM, TheManKnownAsHoid said: On 8/2/2018 at 3:22 PM, TheManKnownAsHoid said. At some point after his revival, he also became a prominent figure on Roshar known as Thaidakar, though he is still physically stuck on Scadrial.[1]. Kelsier later said that "he had more Money than he could Spend" however, after a failed attempt at stealing from the Lord Ruler in his secret room inside Kredik Shaw, he was sent to the atium mines in the Pits of Hathsin. (Almost certainly on that score, lets be honest.) He is almost always late to gatherings, which he attributes to always having somewhere better to be. Kelsier also is quite adept at pewter-dragging, as he is capable of running long distances and experiencing only minor fatigue afterwards. Now lets talk a bit more in depth about Kelsier, and what hes been up to. The mentor figure always ends up getting killed. This one will be important. Now that weve got that basic synopsis out of the way, lets start off with a handy character primer. (Remember how I mentioned all those spoilers? Before leaving them, he created the Bands of Mourning, a collection of unsealed metalminds forged together and containing all kinds of attributes in extremely large quantities. Even if he was though, Im kind of confused at why you think Ruin would want TLR to kill Kelsier instead of Ruin trying to have TLR kill himself somehow. Shadows of Self begins with Wax now working in conjunction with the Elendel constabulary. When Marsh caught Vin in Luthadel, he attacked Ruin with Preservation's power, weakening Ruin's control over Marsh just enough for Marsh to rip out Vin's earring. Elend lived with the weight of not being the man the people wanted. After Marsh was seemingly killed by Inquisitors, Kelsier traveled to the Pits of Hathsin, and in his anger, destroyed all the atium-producing crystals there, forever halting the production of atium. They go on several outings together, including fighting Inquisitors this leads to Vin almost dying however and changes how Kelsier runs the crew. [2] He is capable of using them with a high degree of precision to control the momentum and rotation of dozens of pieces of metal simultaneously. He infiltrated the Steel Inquisitors, and is one of the few remaining characters from the original trilogy who is alive. He also appears to be the only remaining Mistborn thanks to Hemalurgy. I represent that one thing you've never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. Id make a world where owers returned, a world with green plants, a world where no soot fell from the sky. Kelsier was central to it all. [65] As a Pathian, Wax did not worship Kelsier, but his life has nonetheless been drastically affected by the Survivor. Kelsier went on to save Elend's life from an inquisitor. He teamed up with the escaped Plantation skaa Dockson and the Tineye Mare, whom he married. The newly installed king of Luthadel, Elend Venture, often inquires about Kelsier's traits and skills, hoping that he can learn to lead as effectively as the Survivor once did. In addition, Kelsier is a competent warrior, defeating multiple Hazekillers and Mistings while outnumbered and disarmed. [33] As a result, he has both regular vision and the steelsight that Inquisitors used, allowing him to see via both normal light and trace metals. The first glimpse we had of Trells influence was at the end of Alloy of Law in the form ofMiles Hundredlives dying proclamation: You are fools! You just posted an irrelevant comment that was honestly a little hostile. I am hope. Protecting you.Giving you power!, When Leras died and Ruin began to Splinter the Shard of Preservation, Kelsier used the Ire's orb to Connect with Preservation and Ascend, allowing him to protect the power and hold it until Vin could take it. Clearly I am not the only one questioning the relevancy, (Thanks for the support btw @KalaDANG) and it is not to point out that I don't "like" the theory, I find it unlikely, and there are 2 main reasons: A. I don't understand what the theory is trying to say (Which might make my thoughts on the theory irrelevant). People tell me I can be downright frustrating! I dunno what the point of spiking him would be. Kelsier: The famed Survivor of Hathsin, a half-skaa mistborn who led a revolution against the Lord Ruler. Even if it weren't a viable metal, as a Mistborn he would have been able to burn it, and he wasn't able to sense it at all. As of the end of The Bands of Mourning, he has a very obvious crush on Marasi. Kelsier is a Mistborn, so he can burn every Allomantic metal, although he is particularly proficient with the external physical metals iron and steel. What are you actually theorizing. Kelsier: The Mistborn Survivor of Hathsin who leads the Ghostbloods. This isn't really a theory, I would just like to get the ball rolling on a discussion and throw that out there. He was born to a noble and a skaa mother, a fact that would have her killed due to the illegitimacy of it. He once used them in his fight with a Steel Inquisitor, so the metals acted like they were alive, twitching and flying through the air to cut and distract the Steel Inquisitor. I want to know if it is relevant, because when things are relevant, they become not just interesting and thought provoking, but actually important. Mare joined him there a few months later. I wonder if there's a way to make hemalurgy permanent. Dick was so focused on the rhythm of movement and moving toward the name, he almost missed the quiet sound of a cloak fluttering behind him. Marsh decided to give Wax a book explaining Hemalurgy because he believed Wax was doing Kelsier's work. Marasi Colms: An Allomantic Pulser (able to slow down time in a bubble around herself) and a constable in the Elendel constabulary. , Kelsier is terrified by Ati and the power that he holds, seeing and feeling it through the Well of Ascension.[74]. While there he meets Ati and Hoid, as well as regularly talking with Leras, whom he believes to be God. I cant find that WOB in Arcanum, but he definitely had at least one spike at the end of Bands of Mourning. Even though that is the OP, it would also be good to know where the discussion has evolved too, cause I am confused by that too. "[3] He is referred to by Hoid as "the Lord of Scars. When Lord Tresting attempted to rape a skaa girl, Kelsier saved her, killing Tresting and all his servants and soldiers in the process. Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the. . In retaliation, the Lord Ruler executes numerous skaa in public demonstrations. [3] He considers him to be very dangerous. Yes, he's really dead. He/she/it has kandra under their control, is either controlling or working with the Set, and is apparently planning on annihilating life on Scadrial as a whole. When he arrived in Luthadel, he first reunited with his old partner and best friend Dockson. Which is kind of how Id always imagined it. Kelsier draws up a master plan for the job, in which he designates each member of his crew to a role. Vin - (Adopted Daughter) (Asended/Deceased). Except if you remove the spike, you leave the alteration because the Identity is not matched. [31] He lost these abilities in death and has not recovered them.[22]. So we really cant know if he was being feeling the effects of Ruins influence, since we cant even know if he was hemalurgically spiked. Many years after the Catacendre, the cult which started after Kelsier's deception with OreSeur directly following his death has become a fully-formed religion. ifKelsier was spiked? After Vin had recovered from her extensive injuries, Ham took her with him to allow her to watch him burn pewter effectively, but they quickly returned to Kelsier with news that Yeden had had his troops attack a garrison outpost against their main objective. Kelsier is a half-skaa Mistborn from Scadrial. Until Kelsier, a brilliant half-Skaa thief and natural leader, finds in himself the powers of a Mistborn, and turns his talents to the ultimate caper, with the Lord Ruler himself as the mark. [43], Hoid greatly disapproves of Kelsier's interference with Roshar through the Ghostbloods. The people who agree with it will simply agree. After Camon and Vin left, Kelsier realized that the ministry had already discovered that Camon was a thief and only played along to find the crew's hideout. No, Kelsier was not fond of Marsh. Some of the Survivor's less pleasant traits include his ruthlessness and prejudice. if TLR was spiked? He just didnt really understand the point you were trying to get to with your theory, so he asked. [54] Secretly, however, he knew that Ruin would send Marsh to intercept the message, and was hoping that reading the message would give Marsh the information he needed to remove Vin's earring, which was also a Hemalurgic spike that was keeping her from taking up Preservation's power. He eventually plays an important role in freeing her from Ruins influence. A mystery, to be sure. Fortnite dropped the official announcement early Friday. Its central tenet is simply to survive, by any means, until you cannot survive any longer. [25], Before leaving them, he created the Bands of Mourning, a collection of unsealed metalminds forged together and containing all kinds of attributes in extremely large quantities. First off, I don't mean to come off as hostile, but I am genuinely confused as to what this theory is saying. They were extremely successful. The two of them have a strained relationship. As of the end of TheBands of Mourning, it is believed by the characters that the goal of the Set is to begin a civil war to overthrow Elendel. The Lost Metal is looming large on the horizon (its out in two weeks! They also have the technology to create powerful grenades and bombs, as well as medallions which grant various powers. In the following years, Kelsier traveled the empire and learned the art of Allomancy from an old skaa Mistborn named Gemmel. It was Mare who gave Kelsier a drawing of a flower, a remnant of a time before ash clouded the sky and plants grew withered and brown. [42] While he was in the Well, Hoid passed by and Kelsier essentially challenges him to a fight that Kelsier ultimately loses. Wayne once had a thing for her, but gave up on it after realizing that she has a girlfriend. Before the trilogy began, Kelsier was the greatest Crewleader any Skaa had known. See the original version. Be aware that in its current state, it may not include all additional content yet. Mistborn (Series) Personality Type: ENTP - 8w7 - so/sx - 873 - EIE - SCOEI - Sanguine-Choleric - EF (N) One of the most legendary men known to the Skaa. Willshaper is high on the list as well. After speaking with Vin and Elend briefly upon their deaths, he discovers from Sazed that there is a way for him to go back to life. What are you trying to say you think happened? If you dont like or understand it, again, move along. It is there we witness his constant desire to gain access to Lerasium and we can see the affects of the trauma inflicted upon him by the Pits of Hathsin.. Does anybody find it odd how specific Kelsier's death is? Whats the point? Aside from the Survivorists, there was also a whole civilization of people that worshiped Kelsier far to to the south of Elendel, calling him the Sovereign. They have been utilizing Hemalurgy to grant their members Allomantic and Feruchemical powers. He has an imposing presence and is a natural leader, easily taking charge and swaying even the downtrodden skaa of Luthadel into joining the rebellion with his charming personality. Maybe Im just not saying it in a way that can be understood. Kelsier's legacy continues to influence people all across the five dominances. I am not yours. Gemmel is Kelsier's mentor in the allomantic arts, meeting each other after Kelsier escaped from his captivity in Hathsin. Is Trell the true Big Bad of Era 2? Sazed, after becoming God, grants Spook the power of a Mistborn and heals him of his ultra-enhanced sense (an effect of continuously flaring tin for extended periods of time). He helped the people there survive using his knowledge of the Metallic Arts, showing them how to make unsealed metalminds to store attributes like heat in a way that could be shared with anyone. The Lord Ruler is pierced through the chest with a spear, basically a long spike, then uses that spear to stab Kelsier. Gave Entrone: An amateur archeologist who insulted Steris at a party. You cant discuss a theory with only the people who agree with it. He is confronted by a Steel Inquisitor, which he eventually manages to defeat by beheading him with the Inquisitor's own obsidian axe. I dont think the head matters. While held in an Elendel jail, Suit was visited by a mysterious creature with red eyes. He wasn't Kelsier, and he didn't need to be but it was hard to believe so when people kept reminding him of how different Kelsier would have . We want to discuss this theory. He feels guilty for abandoning her but does his best to help her. Yet, his death isn't truly that sad to me. Wayne: Waxs loyal sidekick, Wayne has a tendency to borrow things and has an aversion to using guns despite his duty as a lawman. Having escaped death only by becoming a Mistborn . Kelsier and Dockson went to see her first hand; they watched Vin Soothe an obligator during Camon's scheme, confirming that she was at least a Soother. As of Mistborn Era 2, he may be a feruchemist and he has not gained access to allomancy since his death. At some point, Kelsier had the Ghostbloods on Scadrial work in order to resist the oncoming threat of Trell. He was unable to do so and leaves the bit of metal for Vin, asking her in a note to figure it out. [56] He does not yet know the secret to overcome this limitation. That said though, Im also kind of confused at what Ruin would be trying to accomplish even if TLR HAD been spiked. [19] After she and Elend are killed, Kelsier spoke with them before they moved on to the Beyond. [63] The Ghostbloods believe Kelsier to still have his Allomantic abilities,[64] and he appears to be playing into this lie.[32]. Powers that we know of: Steelpushing (Allomantic) and Bloodmaking (Feruchemical). 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